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Hello my fellow RC explorers! I have a bit of experience with ketamine and now Im interested in trying these two compounds. How do they compare to ketamine and are they as easy-going? have heard that these PCP analogues can cause mania and Im not sure what to think of that. Is mania more positive or negative? 😀 And are these two compounds worth trying if you like ket..?
Be careful…. Its very interesting, no doubt (speaking of 3-meo-pcp). I mean this drug is fucking intense. Just 12mg and i felt nearly on the edge of losing my mind, but i held it together and played some forza and it was pretty neat. Totally changes your personality temporarily during effects
In my experience Mania is positive. What I’ve felt on 3-MeO-PCP (never done the PCE variant) is a drunk like stoned/trippy stupor with a lot of stimulation. The stimulation in combo with the lack of inhibition makes you wanna move around. All your muscles feel super responsive and jolty, coupled with the lack of balance and slurred speech, makes me appear like a literal “maniac.”
But I’ve always been in control unless I went over 20-25mg range, it gets pretty wild. Not the same as ketamine because it’s very hard (if not impossible) to “hole,” because you’ll just want to run around.
I’ve had one blackout that was very negative. It lasted about 7 hours and I just remember being really scared in my bed, listening to the water heater, which I thought was bound to explode any second. Eventually I remember puking, and waking up my parents and just acting all sketched out. I had probably accidentally re dosed making my dose for that night over 50-70mg or something like that. So be extra careful if you re dose, and have a buddy with you.
EDIT: also worth mentioning, exercise will-power between trips on this stuff. I’d say no more than once every 2 weeks max because dissociates are super addictive and this one is definitely one of the better (best in my opinion). I only use it once a year.
I used it for about 3 straight months (30-50mg/day) for work (hanging drywall) because of the stimulation, lack of muscle soreness, and the fact it made my fear of heights disappear, and had very few withdrawal symptoms (mild anxiety/lethargy, but I would definitely not suggest it, for the same reason I wouldn’t suggest taking adderall daily, especially since there are almost no long-term studies on the chemical.
I find that more frequent use of this one (1-3x per week) leads to mild irritability/mood swings and you can end up making some pretty silly little mistakes like forgetting your keys, etc.
I love it too though. Hard not to dip into my stash frequently although now I think the honeymoon phase is wearing off and am not having as much trouble.
They are almost nothing like ketamine. Maybe like a subhole dose that lasts for 6 hours. But really you can’t compare them. I find 3 meo pce more chill than the PCP version
3-MeO-PCP is energetic and invigorating, it’s also sedating but it feels stimulant like for me, but it’s also really fantastical and dreamlike, mania is good but can be a problem if you don’t know how to handle yourself, the euphoria is killer and is what it makes it so fiendish, daily use not recommended.
3-MeO-PCE on the other hand is more like ketamine, way more introspective than it’s PCP counterpart and way more psychedelic, it’s not as euphoric and fun as 3-MeO-PCP but it’s way safer than it, speaking from a experienced user, also there’s a “borderline” hole like experience sometimes.
You should give both a try, but the PCE counterpart will be more of your liking if you’re really attached to ketamine.
Look tinto some of my last posts and discussions here!! Tried 3-HO-PCE yesterday and now low dose. Awesome, I said AWESOME! And the top poster is exactly right! Haaave fuun!
3meopcp is literallymy favorite drug ever. I went thru two grams in like 2 months. 5 mg toots at a time and it is perfection imo. Bought to get 4 more tomorrow! Soooooooo fucking excited. There was a strange lack of withdrawl to. Go to far and you cab def fuck up your whole life tho. Respect that motherfucker
I still don’t know what to think of 3-MeO-PCP. Definitely a lot of delusional thinking, so make absolutely sure you won’t go outside on a whim where life is unpredictable and you need a functional intuition to not royally fuck up. (On high doses at least)
The weirdest thing that happened to me on it was the thought that I was actually an AI/simulated and it was really persistent, as I have no way to prove it is wrong. It was like the rational voice became the little crazy voice in the back of my head telling me its just a drug and the real me was convinced of it being true. A bit scary for sure, but very interesting.
Can be introspective and confidence boosting for sure. I don’t like it that much so it will probably lay around in my stash for a long time.
3-meo-pce will make you feel like a 60 year old man. Like try running while you’re on that shit you just can’t breathe deep at all. Other users have reported extreme BP with normal use.
It feels like you are poisoined.
3-meo-PCP makes you look insane. In higher dosage it is just amnesia anyway.
You can’t even hole with these. Seriously stick with ketamine, or 2f-dck. Plus you won’t accidentally dose too much which is a real issue with the two 3-MEO-PCx unless you have 200+ dollar balance.
I’ve had nothing but great experiences with 3-MeO-PCE. Best disso I tried tbh. However I tend to lay in bed with music the whole time, I don’t really want my dissos to be functional. It makes me feel like I don’t have a body, I feel nothing except for my thoughts and music. Quite a few times I’ve had to move a finger or a foot to prove I’m not dead