30mg of 4-aco-dmt felt like nothing

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My SO felt it and said it was very close to 20mg. This felt like maybe a 2gram dose of shrooms. What dose should i do next?

This was about 4 or 5 days ago. I would like to retry it again tonight, just because i havent had a challenging trip yet. Im thinking 40mg next or maybe even 20mg of 4homet and 20mg of 4-aco-dmt.

Anyone else had any issues with finding their sweet spot?

What dosages felt weaker / stronger for you?

You have to wait 2 weeks between trips for tolerance to reset.

You should also consider that if your product is in a fumarate salt form, the fumaric acid will make up 32% of the year weight per milligram, meaning 30mg 4-AcO-DMT will feel like 20.4mg.

If you want a more intense trip, take 60mg 4-AcO-DMT fumarate, which will actually only be 40.8mg freebase (equivalent to 5.1gs psilocybe cubensis).

For reference, if your 4-AcO-DMT is a fumarate salt, multiply your dose by 0.68 to get the actual freebase dose, and divide that number by 8 to find how many grams of psilocybe cubensis is equivalent to said dose.

Hey thank you for the reply. Thats really informative and exactly what i needed.

I know for a fact that the 4 Ho Met is a fumarate salt, so considering i got them both from the same vendor the 4-aco-dmt may also be a fumarate.

It likely is. It’s rare to find those compounds in a hydrochloric salt or freebase form. For the 4-HO-MET, multiply your dose by 0.65 instead of 0.68. Lemme know if you have any questions

What do you mean will feel like 20.4mg? If you mean compared to other people’s trip reports, then where are you finding people writing reports based on freebase weight?

I mean that within 30mg of 4-AcO-DMT fumarate, there’s 20.4mg 4-AcO-DMT and 9.6mg fumaric acid. Most people don’t know the difference in potency between fumarate salts and freebase, so they don’t specify in their trip reports.

If you go on psychonautwiki.com and look at the dosage range for 4-AcO-DMT, those doses are based on freebase product, not fumarate.

That said, almost all of the substituted tryptamines sold on the market are in a fumarate salt form, as it has a longer shelf life than freebase.

No one sells the freebase and no one freebases their product before they take it if they’re not smoking it. No one is doing math, they’re writing what their scale reads with their product.

Yes, however the doses listed on various wikis are freebase doses.

No one sells this in freebase. I’ve only ever seen it in fumarate and I’d be willing to bet 90% of trip reports as well as the dosage guide on the wiki is referring to fumarate.

While the original comment might be technically correct, it’s kinda similar to the MDMA is only 84% pure thing where it’s technically true but if there’s one nearly universal form it’s safe to just ignore

I would actually go for 3 weeks 2 weeks you might get the full tolerance reset but 3 weeks guarantees the return of the “magic” effect

It varies so much from person to person and batch to batch. Especially at these low volumes. My 15mg trip was super chill, but that same dose for my SO was the perfect amount for her.

Another time I took 55-60mg and had the most insane time of my life. It was quite challenging, but I attribute most of that to my mindset going into it. The ego is a bitch.

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