Toilet mounted bidet – boofing pro-tip

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A few years back I got a Luxe 320 toilet mounted bidet, it fits easily under my regular toilet seat and took 5 min to install. The benefits of said bidet are so vast that is another thread entirely, but a few include: the end of the endless wipe (shit crayon) and ring sting, having a perfectly clean hole all the time, no more itchy ass, etc.

However, there is another benefit I think will appeal to you degenerates. If you learn to relax and position your Browneye directly over the stream, you can fill your ass with water, which you then push out. Not only does this completely clean all the shit out of you in an easy and convenient way, which is awesome for many reasons, it also makes you absolutely primed for boofing.

My bidet was around $50 bc it has both cool and warm water connections. The cool water only ones cost $30 on Amazon. $30! Break free from the savagery of wiping shit off your body using only paper, and take your boofing, and your salad tossing, to a whole new level.

I first encountered bidets in Iraq in 2003, and experienced the transformative power of a jet of water pointed directly at my ass during a bout of stomach rot. they were a feature of my life for decades living in asia and the middle east. I cant live without it. I prefer the basic spray hose like youd find on the side of a kitchen sink, or a rented powerwasher.

I can definitely relate to this post. I first encountered this traveling in SE Asia and ever since I feel unclean when I have to use toilet paper. Also, I think it got me past my typical western hangups about touching my asshole, so boofing wasn’t such a leap for me.

Another benefits not mentioned by OP:

Toilet paper puts a huge strain on waste treatment facilities and is also fairly energy intensive to produce, eliminating it from your life saves you money and reduces your carbon footprint.

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Reasons for taking dissos

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So I’m not really sure how I feel about dissos. Almost everyone says that there worth trying but I’ve never heard those “psychedelics have changed my life” stories with dissos. I’m thinking of trying one of the 3-x-pcx ones or 2F-DCK.

I know Ketamine is incredibly effective at treating depression, but I’m not really depressed. Are there any other benefits?

I tried DXM once and all I remember was that extreme robo walk and the deep, calm feeling when I layed down and closed my eyes. The visuals were very intricate and I felt kinda floaty, but it was by no means a life-changing trip. I do remember having a few insights but I don’t think it was really worth it.

I’m curious what you guys think about dissos. I don’t believe I’ll get addicted, but if I’m buying, I have to buy at least a gram which is more than a few doses and I do not let anything go to waste. Any input is appreciated!

It’s fun. Don’t really need any other justifications to do drugs.

No the only way I can justify my drug use is if it gives me profound spiritual experiences and realigns my chakras bro

Fun has nothing to do with it!

Now excuse me while I snort a gram of ketamine in one line, I have to meditate on how this whole exchange has made me feel!

So my theory is that there’s a handful of distinct categories for drug use. I’m not educated but if I ever go into like psychology/sociology and do a PhD I’d want to do it on this subject.

Escapism: using psychoactive chemicals as an escape from reality. Whether due to trauma, feeling trapped in a negative mental or socioeconomic place, mental angst, etc this type of use sees drugs as a way to escape normal reality for temporary “relief”

Medical: kinda obvious one here. Pain relief, treating physical illness. This category bleeds into the next one and I’d consider them sunsets of the same category

Therapeutic/Entheogenic: using psychoactive chemicals for mental health. Whether it’s anxiety or depression medication or drugs used for “spiritual” purposes for improving ones outlook, this type of use is for improving the human mental status

Recreational: This one seems to have some overlap with escapism and I’m not sure if it could count as it’s own category (this is where the “I’m not an expert” part comes in). This type of use is to simply have fun. Connection to others socially, connection with music/art, connection with nature, etc can all be facilitated by psychoactive drug use and can be seen as simply the desire to have fun or feel good, comparable to enjoyable activities or tasty food

Honorable mentions

I don’t know if these are distinct enough to justify their own categories but they seem different enough to me personally so I’ll list them here

Psychonautical/curiosity: this would be use that’s about exploring the depths of the human conscious experience. Consciousness is a very mysterious and complex world and the use of specific chemicals to alter this reality in order to further explore this mystical depth can be a cause for use. Not to escape or for therapy and not purely just to feel good, this type of use might explain use of deliriants or generally uncomfortable psychoactives that might offer a new insight into the phenomena of consciousness

Self-medication: this is obviously a subset of medical/therapeutic use but it might be worth distinguishing between problems professionally diagnosed and treated vs problems perceived, analyzed, and treated by the user themselves

Technological: this would be the use of chemicals as a technology for improvement of performance. This could include things like steroids for improving the physical body or stimulants and nootropics which give a mental edge to the user. This would be like the Ivy league student using Adderall to get through classes that would otherwise be extremely difficult or out of reach.

Sorry for the wall of text but this is the first post that prompted me to flesh this out more. There’s all sorts of reasons why people use all sorts of different drugs. Some might be more favorable for certain categories but there’s also a significant amount of overlap

Wow, lots of information. This was really interesting to read. I always saw drugs as just a change of headspace. Any different headspace offers a new perspective, buy having the ability to actually grow from the experience is the only reason I consider doing drugs.

I had a few psychedelic experiences when I was younger and I saw them as a valuable tool for improving. I always researched any new drug before I tried it. Weed, ecstasy, many research chems, etc. They all showed me a new side of the world and I guess that would just be considered curiosity. I’ll probably get some 2F-DCK just to test out the waters. Thank you!

its the best escape from reality there is. id say its always a good idea too keep dissos in your stash.

when you have a really shitty day, youll be ready and its definetly better then alcohol when you have a bad day.

also nr.1 boredom killer

for me personally its just as important as psychedelics when it comes to exploring my mind and body. combining both can also get you to new places.

but id say the biggest point. its just fun and theres nothing wrong with that.

about the addiction part, for me personally its less compulsive and easier to handle then cannabis.

I might just be justifying my own drug habits, but I find dissos to be more functional at threshold doses. Psychs have their place, I really like them for micro-dosing. I also enjoy full blown psychedelic experiences for bonding with loved ones. But if I just want a minor head change for cognitive tasks, dissos all day.

They open up a new way of thinking and experiencing yourself.

Unlike psychs where you go into a different reality, with dissos you just escape it all into nothingness and it’s only your mind alone.

I think I prefer them to psychs. But psychs mixed with dissos (i.e. K-hole on the tail end of a lysergamide) is the greatest thing of all time. It ascends the realm of what is possible on either one alone.

Also DXM is one of my favorite substances of all time, but it took some lucky tries to get there. It’s very dose-dependent per person, and the speed at which you ingest it makes all the difference between a euphoric and dysphoric experience. (Look up DXM-to-DXO metabolism)

No fancy dissos in my country, and I assumed DXM was whack, but after blasting through 8 months of psychedelics on a weekly basis, I somehow managed to find 360mg of DXM to be surprisingly amazing.

Felt like being clean drunk a bit, vision choppy as shit, CEVs that were fucking spectacular.

So I combined 450mg DXM and 20mg 4-HO-MIPT and had the hardest crushingly confusing and warped trip of my dinky little existence.

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Summarizing my experience with 1P-LSD so far

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Ok, i guess not many of you agree with my view that 1P-LSD is vastly different from LSD. I actually feel that it might be weaker than real LSD but that’s what I think so far.

So a lil background about myself, I’ve dosed LSD maybe a 100 times until today but that was a long time ago. I haven’t done psychs for over a year and only recently got into research chemicals. This is my first time trying any sort of LSD analog, the only other research chemical I’ve tried before are the nbomes and I’ve done all of them in the series several times in the past. My experience with 1P so far has been half a tab a week ago and a full tab yesterday which I’m gonna be writing about below.

Lets get to what I thought of the trip itself:

Intensity:

Ngl when i say 1P felt much weaker than LSD, though i doubt its any different in terms of the drug itself i.e having any properties on its own. My theory is, it gets metabolized to LSD in the body, not sure how, but it does and it does this slowly.

Tolerance to LSD builds very rapidly, so that means if you take any more LSD 2 hours after your first dose, you wont feel it. This could explain why not all of the 1P gets metabolized to LSD maybe because the metabolizing doesn’t happen instantly and takes times, you don’t get hit as hard as you would with taking real LSD.

  1. Visuals:

Visuals were p much not existent with 1 full tab. Normally on a 100 mcg hit of LSD it’d be off my face and drowning in anxiety but I didn’t notice much(if any) anxiety with 1P.

The visuals just weren’t there, except for lights seeming brighter. The usual wavy textures with Lsd just wasn’t there. I could sense it was present but not as pronounced as it should have been. Sometimes when I tried to focus hard on it, the visuals would appear, reminiscent of LSD.

  1. Trip Length:

This one is weird, because if i trip on a single tab of lsd I could be sure that I could go to sleep T+8 hours. This didn’t happen with 1P, i found myself 12 hours later still rolling in my bed, feeling uncomfortable and just wanting to fall asleep but couldn’t. This agrees with my theory that 1P metabolizes into LSD but does it very slowly that you end up tripping for longer.

  1. Music appreciation:

I didn’t notice a lot of difference in this aspect because music sounded great none the less. Especially classical music which sounds beautiful on LSD.

  1. Peak:

This one is weird again, for the first two hours it was almost indistinguishable to taking LSD and that’s when it gets weird. T+2 hours I find myself falling into a void, which is quite normal with LSD. With LSD it gets more intense for the next 2 hours but with 1P, i felt the the trip remained stagnant in terms of trip intensity and for what should have felt like absolute mind fuckery for the next two hours, felt like some sort of tripping for the next 8 hours where I couldn’t tell if i was peaking or coming down.

Final thoughts:

Seeing that everyone loves 1P so much, I don’t want to say that I can be certain with all that I know with the 2 times Ive tripped on 1P so far but.. I won’t say Im wrong either. For this time, Im leaning towards thinking that 1P is just not as intense.

Honestly, how sure can you be about your sources, the tabs i received came in a vac sealed bag with “analytic sample only” and has 1P printed on the tabs. I can’t be more certain than this, now can I? But going purely based on my experience so far, I don’t wanna lie to myself saying that it is the same..

Honestly I did not like what I read about 1p-lsd.

4-AcO-DMT is fucking fantastic.

AL-LAD is the lysergamide that seems most interesting, and possibly 1CP-lsd as well.

There is no way to know if your LSD tabs were dosed heavily, or if your 1p-lsd were underdosed.

Have you tried taking an extra half tab?

Everyone says 4- Aco-dmt is exactly like mushrooms and i highly disagree.

Ive never done lsd. And only Had 1p so im curious its very different aswell to an experienced lsd25 user

Personally I prefer tryptamines over lysergamides. 4aco is next on my list 🙂

And no, I haven’t gotten around to trying more than a single tab. I might get to it sometime next month once my tolerance is back to baseline.

I agree that per tab, it’s generally it’s a bit weaker than what I used to buy in high school (’07-’09).

With 2-50-300+ ug, though, I am fully in it and can’t tell the difference at all. So maybe it takes a bit more, but I like the consistency. I used to get anxious because I never knew whether 2 tabs would be manageable or if it would slam me over the head.

I’d say the half tab 1 week earlier may have dampened the effects of the single tab since it was less than 2 weeks apart. Not saying 100% but maybe.

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O-DSMT Quality By Region

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I’m interested in trying some O-DSMT. The thing is, I know of more than one place to get it. It’s a fairly expensive RC and I’m strapped for cash so I’m wondering if anyone has experience with this substance from different sources. My question is: Does the quality vary a lot from different areas?

I’m not looking for sources, I’ve got them. Just want to know if there is a big enough difference in batches to justify being selective.

Despite the surface appearance, the majority of RCs come from a single lab in EU or the labs in China (I’m guessing there’s a lot here but that’s a bit more obscured in publicly available information).

So generally, of all the places a given chemical is available it will likely come from the same place as all the vendors are are companies buying bulk from the same labs and then selling in smaller quantities.

It’s very possible that all of the O-DSMT currently available comes from 1 or 2 sources

Thanks. I wanted to know about any differences between China vs EU, but I’m more experienced with EU so I’ll probably just go with that. Just thought I’d see if anyone has experience with both continents.

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My penis makes me delirious

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I had an interesting expirience when trying MAL for the first time. Spent the comeup just chilling and after i felt comfortable with the substance i was watching a few vids on youtube. suddenly this sexual energy started taking over. every time i was looking at a female i would get an instant bodyly response, so i was like fuck it. lets try watching some porn. pulled my dick out and was suprised. ive never seen him like this, like a warrior ready for battle, harder then ever, might have changed colour, but that couldve just been the visuals. so i did the usual buisness, but as i was enjoying my body i felt my energy drfiting away. my vision started to blur and my mind became foggy. this little fucker seemed to have taken all my blood from the brain and put it to use. he took some time afterwards to calm down and i regained my full psychedelics conscioussnes.

proabably couldve gone for a second round, but i felt like i wouldve just lost my conscioussnes if i did so.

otherwise awesome substance, very insightful and awesome visuals

yeah I get blue and purple tint to my vision, with cool tracers from Viagra. I like Cialis more for its actual purpose, I mean it lasts 36 hours! but the visual effects from Viagra make it my favorite if I’m taking it with a fun drug. I really wanna trip and/or roll, and take a nice big dose of Viagra to see what it does to my visuals!! of course I’d take advantage of the hard-on I’d get too!!

i only had nbome once, was my first tab and i didnt know they werent supposed to be bitter. had no problems, id say only side effect for me was temperature regulation was off. i had to wear a winter jacket in summer. might have been the vasoconstriction.

dont really check my bpm and blood pressure, never been an issue.

I ended up jerking off for 4 or 5 hours on Monday when I took a tab of lsd. I’ll do it sometimes on the comeup because I get anxiety sometimes and it usually helps my mins focus on just the porn for the first hour but this time that hour doubled, took a break and then beat him more. Dude hurt the next day but he’s recovered

all present throughout the expirience and troughout the body, quite tense and energetic. it wasnt uncomfortable at any point, but i guess higher doses or the same dose for someone else could be uncomfortable. it wasnt energetic enough to get me to do a walk tho (way too cold).

the bodyload was very interesting when eyes were closed, made everything feel more real and impactful, some moments a fight or flight response seems to have been triggered. Definetly not for first timers.

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My experience with 2FMA

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I been taking this once a week, during 8 weeks more or less

The first 2 times only low doses, I didn´t want to go further, but the third week I was taking medium dose because it was very light I think

By now im not taking more of 35 mg in 2 oral doses; the first 15 mg, the next 1hour 30 minutes after 20 mg. I prefer this, the first I don´t notice nothing practically even taking more, i preffer do the redose with more mg than the first time.

But I think the next time I will do 15+25 mg, this will be a hard dose for this stimulant, I didnt want to go further but medium dose start to be like a coffee, only enjoy when I redose 20 mg like 20 minutos of feeling very nice and happy, after its like a good coffee

I realize certain “Hook”, I dont want to take that 2 times a week but …

In my opinion it worth it but its not too much. Is better than a coffee or modafinil, but nothing euphoriable. Even 2 beers can be more euphoriable, but alcohol makes me sleep because I abuse years ago.

I love for meditate and work. For meditation is good feel euphoria to create new ideas. I need some shit more euphoriable. For work or functional is so good

Take magnesium everyday to keep your heart healthy. You can buy a pound of it on amazon for less than $20. Also look into hawthorn or arjuna.

are there other similar stimulant RC’s that give more euphoria/confidence?

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A-PCYP short review

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So I tried this chem three times this weekend. Twice on Saturday and once today (Sunday). Apologies in advance if Im not following a proper review format. I am writing this in a rush.

Please note that I dont have prior Cathinone experience but have experience with almost all other drug classes.

First time I tried 15mg orally. Effects were noticeable in 45 mins. Kind of like speed but not as powerful. Maybe dose was too low. Reminded me of the ecstasy pills that were going around in early 2000 a bit but not as strong. Maybe felt like half a pill or even less. I would say this first try reminded me of a light dose of speed. Effects started to wear off in two hours at which point I took another 15mg this time nasally. Effects came on in 30 mins and were similar. Felt a bit speedy but again not as present and very subtle. About an hour after this dose i took a 75mg dose of O-DSMT. It felt like the O-DSMT high and euphoria was magnified and certainly lasted longer. I enjoyed combining A-PCYP with this dose of opiod on the way down and I found them synergic. At night I did notice slight visuals on the ceiling!

Overall I wasnt that impressed with this chem. It could be that I didnt take enough or did not use the most optimal ROA but in general im not a fan of speedy chemicals. If i take this again it will only be to potentiate the opiod euphoria.

I keep having night mares about my family finding me overdosed on this SPECIFIC chem despite having never used it.

I’m definitely gonna pick up a g of this from what I’ve read and figured how it would be if could be a nice stim since I don’t prefer hard pushy stims nearly as much sounds a bit more relaxed

That’s… Weird and not correct.

MDPV was hella strong in low oral doses.

Slightly too large a dose or too much on a redose (even 3-4 hours after the initial) could easily leave you feeling cracked out.

I think the thing is that most people don’t bother with oral, because most people interested in pyros are looking for Meth 2.0

Whether the newer gen pyros have limited oral activity I can’t say… But I can tell you the first couple generations could be eaten with strong effect.

Man I’ve been doing this stim IV and in high doses it’s comparable to a shot of adrenaline imo. But after 24h I feel really broken took some bup to calm me down but I’ll be on that syringe in 1h as soon as I’ve calmed down believe me.. I have a habit to be obsessed to finish everything I got (3g). My shots have been 0.2-0.5 and I can tell you please don’t take this much, it’s fucking dangerous.. I can feel the pressure on my chest and my back muscles just getting fucking tense..

And if you IV, the rush comes after 1.5-2 mins so don’t do like me and push an beginning shot of 0.4 straight in the fucking bloodstream.

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Is it possible to have a seizure while under the influence of benzos?

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I’ll start with some background info. I had never experienced anything akin to a seizure until a period of extreme insomnia a few weeks ago, which was due to stress from legal/school matters. Three days in with no sleep, and while really high (just THC) I was sitting at my computer when i started to feel nauseous and increasingly lightheaded and confused. I came to seemingly a few seconds later very disoriented on the ground, sweating, and with a very confused mind. This then repeated about 5-10 minutes later while stripping down to get into bed, so me and my roommate decided to call EMS. They ran a few tests, but ultimately seemed fairly unconcerned and uncertain that what I experienced was a seizure. Past that date I didn’t experience anything similar, though I was very paranoid about the possibility of it happening again.

Well, last night I experienced something that felt very much the same at the tail end of a 25mg 4-ho-MET trip. I had dosed very late into the night, and without much of a clear intention beyond wanting to do drugs, so my trip was overall not that great -I was in a kinda shitty headspace and not having the best time.

2-3 hours in I had my roommate assist me in taking some etizolam to dull my anxiety and help me sleep. This was my first time ever taking a benzo, so I did not feel comfortable dosing myself. After taking the etiz, I was in a friends room for about two hours -having one beer and a few whippets. Feeling much more come down I returned to my room and smoked a few bowls with my roommate. The weed re-amplified the 4-HO, bringing another wave of CEV’s and general psychedelic feeling (this was 6 hours after drop). I then went to take a shower, and thats when it happened.

I was standing in the shower, still very fucked up and tripping pretty well. At one point I began to wonder what would happen if I had a seizure right then and there in the shower, with others in the bathroom. Shortly after then I started to once again feel that rising lightheadedness that I associated with my former ‘seizures’. My mind started racing, trying to calm myself down by thinking that I’m just high and a bit tired -I had felt the same feeling many times before when high/drunk late at night and tried to reassure myself that I was just lightheaded. Eventually though the confusion took full hold and I stumbled/fell out of the shower -coming back quick as before with only the repeated thought of ‘not again’ in my head. Within minutes I was feeling pretty much fine again, though still paranoid and shook up like the last time.

My question is do you think this could have been a genuine seizure? AFAIK benzos should be extremely effective in stopping seizures, so it seems surprising that I would have one while on one. Perhaps my body was too exhausted and I was passing out, or maybe just the anxiety of having a seizure lead to a similar experience, especially considering I was on a psych. I am also on Lexapro, so I don’t know if serotonin syndrome or something could be the culprit. Nonetheless, it was a scary experince that I would like to have some degree of understanding of.

Has anyone else experienced something similar or have any idea what this could be if not a seizure? I am just very scared for my health.

I really appreciate any help or perspective you can give.

Panic attack possibly? Or were you never feeling anxious? I wonder if it’s just the thc and maybe low blood pressure. I’ve gotten really lightheaded before after being high, but usually water fixes that. I’ve also had tremor of a variety, like my whole body shivering or vibrating, but it’s usually unpleasant feeling. Usually happens after getting way too high on dab carts.

It’s from staying up for with insomnia related issues with the combo of uppers and downers. Don’t know how much food you consumed or your size but that heavily influences your metabolism. From experience with that situation I’d been up on little to no sleep, little uppers, medical dose of kpins, little food. When chemical and brain function correlate to enact those type of biophysical outcomes it’s a depletion in brain chemicals, mainly effecting the myelin sheath in your brain responsible for ion uptake (normally absorption of electrolytes is maximized coconut water, the pink stuff not the cut bs) causing the neural pathways to not communicate effectively or start to make “primal” or more brain stem activity to be used due to the stress on your brain. If your parents we’re abusers of uppers or alcohol it can be a common symptom or reaction when not keeping up on self care while using. Remember to drink a bunch of water. Also sounds like fishing out on whippets so could be oxygen deprivation if you’re hyperventilating due to stress then ripping a bowl causing more oxygen deprivation. Be well fam stay safe. And to answer your question simply yes I had a seizure like incident or situation you were describing while under the influence of bnzos

You can have a seizure while on benzos. I recently read a report of a seizure due to extended release Wellbutrin while the patient was also on lamictal AND Klonopin to prevent seizures (with Klonopins being one of the ‘gold standard’ anti-convulsant benzos)

Yes, I have before, when they gave me a piss-poor dosage of valium hospital (5mg) to taper off benzo and alcohol dependence a long time ago, I knew I should’ve demanded for 50mg, but demanding that kind of dose, especially when they don’t understand the potency of the benzos you’re with, drawing from, well, they need to step up the dosage or yes, you can have a seizure.

If you develop a rather substantial dependency to benzos and stop cold turkey or taper your usage down more than you should, some people more than others have a high likelihood of experiencing seizures. A friend of mine was prescribed 3 2mg bars per day, and took them at the prescribed dose for a little under a year and begin to have some gnarly seizures. Had a total of 20 or so…hasnt had any in a while and is doing good now. Take care

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8mg a day at once (sometimes more) tiz…

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Looking to taper. Bought some diclazepam. 3.2mg presses. Have around 30 left and 30 1mg tiz left. Been taking 8mg tiz daily for around 2 months. Union job laid off 50 workers. Looking for new job and I need to quit tiz for a bit. Have not been dosing 8mg tiz for a few days now and feel good. I realize the dangers of benzo wd. And plan on dosing when needing to. But the smallest bit needed.

I need tips, please. Fastest way to taper, to stay safe. Got another bottle of 25ct 2.2mg tiz coming just in case what I have isn’t enough for a comfortable taper. Please no negativity…Just solutions. Thank you.

The fastest way to taper is foolish. Why do you want to do it quickly if you have the supply to spread it out for longer? Some of the benefits of a slow taper include a reduced chance of relapse, safer WDs, and less inclination to up your dose during your taper.

Take your time, be patient with your body and mind. If you feel shaky you need to dose. If your eyes start to wiggle, you need to dose. I promise you don’t want to ignore any signs of WD because this puts you at risk to seize.

Again, take your time, this shit is dangerous.

2 months means 2 weeks at least of steady taper. If your using diclaz you should be set. Take the tiz as nessesary and remember diclaz has a killer half life.

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Which RC psychedelics are worth trying on their own?

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So far I’ve tried the following psychedelics:

LSD

Psilocybin

Mescaline

DMT

5-MeO-DMT

2C-B

4-AcO-DMT

And I’ve tried MDMA as well.

I was wondering if people can tell me which, if any, other psychs provide a unique and qualitatively distinct experience from the ones I’ve already tried. See, I don’t like to trip very often – maybe once or twice a year – so I don’t have time to try everything. I’m only interested in the ones that are special.

E.g. if you can describe the substance as “a cross between LSD and MDMA,” or “like mescaline but with a sexual push,” I’m not interested.

The last substance I tried that blew my mind was 5-MeO-DMT. I had no idea anything like that was even possible. In fact, that experience is what motivated me to make this post.

Any others I should know about? Thanks for any responses.

EDIT – I’ve also done salvia, ketamine, nitrous, and DXM. Probably not interested in RC dissociatives though.

Unpopular opinion but MET is pretty nice. Don’t go into it expecting a DMT level experience, just go in in expecting things to get trippy for an hour or so. Really interesting visual effects and pretty intense body euphoria. A nice low key trip for a week night. Looking forward to combining it with 2f dck.

I know this might not be what you mean by special but I like it for exactly that reason, it doesn’t take too much out of you while still having a refreshing headspace.

ETH-LAD

5-meo-mipt

4-ho-met

and maybe a DOx

2C-E had a nice introspective depth and you can get some really groovy visuals but is also pretty lacking in terms of any “body high” euphoric effects. I found 2C-i to be about the polar opposite of that for me, being quite empty in the mentally introspective quality, but very much a “fun” phenethylamine that just sort of makes me want to dance and the visuals aren’t nearly as complex or patterned but things are very fun to look at and you get effects like things just looking “magical”, and at times even your vision may become “cell-shaded” like in a video game, I always thought it made people look really beautiful (I love to have sex on 2C-I!), and it reminded me of that movie “waking life” somewhat.

. All that said, taking them both together gave me some really memorable and amazing trips. Separately, I think I gained some valuable insight from their differences as well, seeing that in 2c-e, the experience of the conscious mind in the process of the learning was valuable, and in 2c-i, that the experiential “journey” of just being, and having this incredible experience, was in itself somehow enlightening just as well, but in a physical rather than conscious sort of way. It’s like one is a wisdom and the other is an electricity, but both very viable and important powers that have different potential and insights to offer.

There are plenty to mention, not all are just so simple, like Amanita. Amanita definitely has a lot of depth and magic to offer, but it can also be very tricky to use and experiences can vary quite incredibly from one to the next

Ald-52… Is in my opinion, the closest to lsd-25…

Eth-lad… Similar to lsd, but more electric visuals…

Al-lad… Also similar to lsd, but more pastel colours, and a lot shorter duration…

You could try 1p-lsd or 1b-lsd or even 1cp-lsd, but i dont know about them, when i did 1p, it was a waste of time…

And simply because shulgin did not bother making them, i have my doubts…

Ah, yes, DPT. Just start low, it can cause sustained trauma, user called it PTSD, but that’s very possibly self-diagnosis, do take that with a grain of salt. And for my personal experience – DPT is DMT from some dystopian world that lasts about 90 mins insufflated. I have it but I don’t want to do it again soon.

Yeah 5-MeO-DMT is something right?

I’d consider 2C-E, 5-MeO-MALT, ETH-LAD and 5-MeO-MiPT.

Other than that, not an RC/psychedelic but maybe Salvia.

And maybe a dissociative? Maybe Ephenidine.

A lot of the comments below are fairly similar to what you’ve already done. For instance, 4-HO-MET is probably not what you’re looking for, as it’s fairly similar to mushrooms/4-AcO-DMT…. The suggestions that make the most sense to me from what I’ve heard/tried myself would be 2C-E, which everyone pretty much agrees is uniquely weird, and maybe 5-MeO-MiPT, which everyone finds to be pretty unique even though I personally don’t exactly love it. I can’t comment on 5-MeO-MALT, so maybe that too. I would also suggest looking at DPT, which, while definitely similar to DMT, seems to be a consensus “unique” drug beyond just the fact that it lasts a lot longer than DMT.

You might want to try medium (sub-hole) doses of ketamine while on shrooms or any RC tryptamine. It’ll add a surreality to the trip that will change it significantly.

There are a lot of ethnobotanicals that are incredibly unique. T. Bridgessi soup (a mixture of mescaline and other similar alcaloids) was completely unique, extremely colorful, and had a very manageable headspace.

If you’ve never tried LSA, Rivea Colombria (take around 50+ seeds) is a great way of being introduced to the substances. It’s a lysergamide but not one like the others. Overall it’s a very serious mentally intense trip.

Voacanga Africana seeds aren’t the most amazing trip but…. its pretty different. The rootbark is a very different experience from the seeds. The seeds make your perception of 3D objects incredibly acute at the expense of being able to count fast around 40, and turns the sensitivity of your hearing WAY up. Set an alarm for two hours into the trip or you’ll probably fall asleep.

If you want something recreational I really enjoyed MiPLA. It’s not as much a trip as it is a highly recreational state thats vaguely like acid. Don’t expect anything earth shattering, but it was SO MUCH FUN to take in the desert.

DiPT (hard but possible to find) is a very unique experience. Contrary to what a lot of people think, it does have a headspace and it’s just totally it’s own thing. High doses of foxy (5-meo-dipt) are even weirder, peoples faces start going completely Van Gogh but you feel pretty lucid and normal.

2C-B + Shrooms is a very visual and unusual trip that’s quite managable. The shrooms give the 2cb serious visuals, but they’re not like shroom visuals at all. If you try this I’d strongly recommend finding some woods to wander around as the sun comes up – 2cb (like mescaline) feels on visual chaos and it was a pretty serene and amazing experience.

2C-E is not like the other 2Cs (I’ve never tried 2C-P). It’s not really a recreational trip, but it’s really a unique experience.

Mainly going off what I’ve read rather than personal experience:

DiPT (unique for having mainly auditory hallucinations. Definitely check out some reports on this one)

DPT (supposedly a “breakthrough” psychedelic with a darker more alien feel than DMT)

4-HO-DiPT (read the TiHKAL entry on it. Very steep dose response curve, very short for a 4-sub tryptamine at 2-3hrs, high doses can give a very strong experience)

aMT (if you can find it. Unique for being a monoamine releaser, possibly a weak MAOi inhibitor, and 5HT2a partial agonist)

2C-E (pretty unique 2C-x)

DOx (psychedelic amphetamines. Long duration supposedly with a unique flavor rather than something very close to the classics)

3C-x (might be straying a bit from psychedelics here as they’re supposedly part stimulant part psychedelic. Unique either way)

IMO this is the best comment. I would add 5-MeO-MET to the list and 5-MeO-MALT if you want a 5-MeO-DMT-like experience

4 ho met is a great tryptamine for having fun and enjoying its very intense visuals

If you like hardcore ego dissolving trips, I think you may try DPT

I love 2CE for its visual and mental effect (clear headed introspection)

Also I would say AMT is a rather unique substance, a long acting and speedy tryptamine

i don’t want to talk too much about my own experiences, but several commenters have mentioned 2c-e, probably for good reason.

it seems like lots of folks feel fondly towards 2c-e. shulgin himself admitted it into his magical half dozen. erowid’s full of writeups on it. and it’s rarely compared to anything else, which seems to be what you’re asking for. you mentioned that you’ve done 2c-b and while they share a common naming convention, i think many people would agree that they are experientially very unlike. what limited pharmacological data exists on the two of them paints a picture of dissimilarity at the neurological level as well.

I’ve been looking for similarly unique psychs, I’m in the same boat for not really wanting the same old thing over again. IMO 4-ho/aco-MET is a samey experience, certainly a nice one but not massively distinct. I think 4-ho-MiPT fills the same role and is more destinct, but also pretty mushroomy. For some psychs based purely on difference from the ones you’ve tried, I’d suggest;

DOx – Very long lasting, stimulating, not personally my thing but very different and prone to some cool 3d visuals IME

5-meo-MiPT – Relaxing and stoning, a relatively recreational chemical with a pleasant headspace that I find to be rather different than most other psychedelics. Vaped it’s a whole different beast.

2C-E – Visually unique and intense, different enough from 2C-B to warrant being on this list.

DiPT – For pure novelty theres nothing that beats this, its primary effects are auditory distortion. Nothing like anything else.

4-ho-DiPT – pretty typical psychedelic effects, but the speed of onset and its brevity of duration are certainly unique.

Since you have experience with 5-meo-dmt maybe you might like 5-meo-mipt I found it to be similar in my experience (vaping!) Tried oral once but that was more like a speedy mushroom like TBH

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